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PostPosted: Thu 17 Feb, 2011 1:00 pm 
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Going on from a previous discussion, I have compiled a list of ALL the wives that are on the Phantom Wiki (If I have missed any, please add)....

1st Phantom
princess Marabella of Maravilloso (Egmont)
granddaughter of Christopher Columbus - Marabella (Falk & Moonstone)
Christina, the daughter of the Viking Eric the Rover (Falk)
unnamed Spanish princess (Falk)


2nd Phantom
Ann or Anne (Egmont)
granddaughter of Christopher Columbus - Marabella (Falk) incest maybe???


3rd Phantom
Princess Pura (Egmont & Falk)
Rosamunda (Falk)


4th Phantom
Englishwomen (Egmont & Bastei) Bastei name her Aretha
Princess Pura (Falk) - more incest??


5th Phantom
unnamed Italian opera singer (Egmont)


6th Phantom
Queen Natala of Navarre (Egmont & Falk)


7th Phantom
Queen Heloise of Koqania (Egmont & Falk)
a French queen (Falk)
Queen Natala of Navarre (Falk) - another case of incest


8th Phantom
Lady Ingrid of Holstein (Egmont)
Queen Heloise of Koqania (Falk)
unnamed Englishwoman (Falk)


9th Phantom
Vhatta Khan (Falk)
Flame Stanbury (Egmont)


10th Phantom
Marianne (Egmont)
Scandinavian ship captain (Falk)


11th Phantom
Renata di Mascarelli (Egmont)
Maharajah's daughter (Falk)
Indian maiden (Falk)


12th Phantom
Marion Trelawney (Egmont)


13th Phantom
Jeanette Lafitte (Falk)


14th Phantom
Marie Claire (Egmont)
Jeanette Lafitte (Falk)


15th Phantom
Juliet Adams (Egmont)
Unnamed opera singer (Falk)
Jeanette Lafitte (Falk)


16th Phantom
Asta Jensen (Egmont)
Annie Morgan (Falk)


17th Phantom
Mary Stillwell (Egmont)


18th Phantom
Lara Collins (Egmont)


19th Phantom
Jane Cary (Falk & Egmont)
unnamed South American explorer's daughter (Falk)
Lara Collins (Spada)


20th Phantom
Maude Thorne McPatrick (Falk & Egmont)
unnamed daughter of Dr. Thorne (Falk)


21st Phantom
Diana Palmer (Falk & Egmont)

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Damn... Falk was pretty lose on the whole continuity-thing, wasn't he?

I guess some of these things can be retconned to work similarly to the Rosamunda/Pura thing, that the Phantom remarried because of tragic events, but others are just things that have to be cut out, because of Falks sloppiness.

But to Falks defense, I have to say, it can be hard to keep track of all of this, if you're writing a comic for such a long time. Comic-BOOK writers have the luxury of an Editor that helps the writer to keep track of things, something which would probably be worth it's weight in gold on a comic-STRIP as well.

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Phantom Wives:

13th Phantom
Jeanette Lafitte (Falk)


14th Phantom
Jeanette Lafitte (Falk)

15th Phantom
Jeanette Lafitte (Falk)




Horror & more horror!!! THREE Phantoms wed ONE same woman??does that meant 14th Phantom wed his Mother & 15th,my goodness,his granny?? :lol: :lol: :P

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Also the 2nd, 4th and 7th also married their mums....

In looking at this I would guess if we had to merge the two to ONE complete lore it would be:

1st Phantom
princess Marabella of Maravilloso

2nd Phantom
granddaughter of Christopher Columbus - Marabella

3rd Phantom
Princess Pura (Egmont & Falk)

4th Phantom
Englishwomen (Egmont & Bastei) Bastei name her Aretha

5th Phantom
unnamed Italian opera singer (Egmont)

6th Phantom
Queen Natala of Navarre (Egmont & Falk)

7th Phantom
Queen Heloise of Koqania (Egmont & Falk)

8th Phantom
Lady Ingrid of Holstein (Egmont)

9th Phantom
Flame Stanbury (Egmont)

10th Phantom
Marianne (Egmont)

11th Phantom
Renata di Mascarelli (Egmont)

12th Phantom
Marion Trelawney (Egmont)

13th Phantom
Jeanette Lafitte (Falk)

14th Phantom
Marie Claire (Egmont)

15th Phantom
Unnamed opera singer (Falk)

16th Phantom
Annie Morgan (Falk)

17th Phantom
Mary Stillwell (Egmont)

18th Phantom
Lara Collins (Egmont)

19th Phantom
Jane Cary (Falk & Egmont)

20th Phantom
Maude Thorne McPatrick (Falk & Egmont)

21st Phantom
Diana Palmer (Falk & Egmont)

This is based that the Phantom has ONE wife....
Some notes:
I have both the 15th and 5th marrying an Opera Singer, which makes sense why Egmont has the 15th marrying Juliet instead.

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Feb, 2011 4:10 pm 
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But Can you please mention the stories where all 13,14 & 15 married Jane?? Missing Men's Vault mentioned it's only 13th..when 14th & 15th did(in a FALK strip,as u mentioned)??
Same goes to Princess Pura..as far the Cup story,it's 3rd Phantom married her...

it's really confused me!!

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Yeh no probs mate! As i said before this is all information off the Phantom Wiki, I just trust the information is correct...

Timpa wrote:
But Can you please mention the stories where all 13,14 & 15 married Jane?? Missing Men's Vault mentioned it's only 13th..when 14th & 15th did(in a FALK strip,as u mentioned)??

13th Phantom (Falk story "The Phantom Cowboy"): http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_13th_P ... o_Lee_Falk
14th Phantom (Falk stories "The Heirs", "Buried Treasure" and "Captain Amazon - Pirate Queen"): http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_14th_P ... o_Lee_Falk
15th Phantom (Falk story "Queen Amaza's mate"): http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_15th_P ... o_Lee_Falk


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Same goes to Princess Pura..as far the Cup story,it's 3rd Phantom married her...

3rd Phantom (Falk story "Alexander's Diamond Cup"): http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_3rd_Ph ... o_Lee_Falk
4th Phantom (Falk story "Captain Amazon - Pirate Queen"): http://www.schapter.org/wiki/The_4th_Ph ... o_Lee_Falk

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Feb, 2011 5:12 pm 
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germ wrote:
Yeh no probs mate! As i said before this is all information off the Phantom Wiki, I just trust the information is correct...



Thanks for these infos,must been casually putted by falk on those recap/late-comers pages....will need to re-read these strips again!! We criticise other writer's mistakes but then Falk himself made many blunders,besides these as well!!
Might be Falk thought nobody will really going to re-read the old stories and hence never bothered to check the exact references!! :?

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Hey Germ. where would you include the Native American girl that the 3rd Phantom married in some stories? Is there someplace she could be fit into the family tree?

Also, which Phantom was it that married a Mongol chief's daughter? You know, the Phantom that was later retconned away, because he was a borderline midget?

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Might be Falk thought nobody will really going to re-read the old stories and hence never bothered to check the exact references!! :?
Most likely precisely why he didn't care too much about this stuff. For a long time, most comic-writers figured only little kids read their stories, so they thought every 5 or so years, the readership would change completely.

Nowadays it's of course the complete opposite.

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Predabot wrote:
Hey Germ. where would you include the Native American girl that the 3rd Phantom married in some stories? Is there someplace she could be fit into the family tree?


I know some people may not like this and I expect to cop some flak for it but Falk really did not care about the Phantom wives, Egmont does! The Native American girl got one panel mention were Egmont has actually created stories based on their version.

imo you CANNOT have two canons! The way it should be is that Falk lore is first but when there is conflicting 'facts' like for the 3rd, you go for common sense.

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